They deserve each other

Digby responds to a Kevin Drum post about the old "So what if we do get out of Iraq...what then?" question. It's long(ish) but well worth reading, herewith, a little something to get you started:

Kevin's question about "looking weak" is more than an academic one to both the neocons and Osama bin Laden. The neocons are convinced that everything from the rise of terrorism to male pattern baldness is the result of looking weak....The neocons worry incessantly about this. It's almost as if they share the Japanese obsession with "face" and they will do almost anything to save it. They will fight withdrawal with every breath in their bodies.

"No doubt some folks enjoy doin' battle, like presidents, prime ministers and kings, so let's all build them shelves so they can fight among themselves. And leave the people be who love to sing. / Come and sing a simple song of freedom, sing it like you've never sung before, let it fill the air, tell the people everywhere: We the people here don't want a war"

--Bobby Darin, "Simple Song of Freedom"